2022 vRS Coupe - Braking and Cornering Issues?

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Hi

I'm looking at used Enyaqs. I like the look of the vRS coupe and the toys it comes with. Journeys will mostly be either me by myself on the motorway or the family in the back around town. I'm not that fussed about the sporty side of it but AWD and a little extra zip can be useful.

Most of the the reviewers of the 2022 model are disappointed with the braking and how it corners. I'm hoping the reviews are more focused on the comparison with other sporty Skodas and rival EVs.

Does anyone have experience of this model and is braking/handling an ongoing annoyance that affects the day to day use of the car?
Is the vRS worse to drive around corners than the 80 or just simply not giving much more for the money?
Will I get complaints from family in the back about the ride? Especially if get 21 inch wheels?!

Grateful for any thoughts and advice. Thanks
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I suspect the reviewers are comparing it to other VRS models like the Octavia, which is much lighter and likely far more "sporty" feeling.

I've not driven a VRS, but I've driven a 60 and an 80x Sportline (which is the same drivetrain as the VRS, just slightly detuned) and IMO theres nothing wrong with the cornering or braking. I mean, you can feel the weight, its a 2+ tonne car so its not going to change direction like a Mini, but there are no unpleasant manners, and the low CoG makes it handle very well given its weight.

Braking is weird, and i can understand what they mean, but its also flawed. Most EV's use a system that blends braking and regen. As a result the brake pedal feels a bit different to an ICE. The first part of the pedal travel is much softer and has much less "bite" which allows the ECU's to ramp in the regen before the hydraulic brakes come in. Jump from an ICE to an EV it can often feel like the brakes are poor in comparison. The reality is if you press harder, the brakes are just as powerful as they would be in an ICE car. It just requires a bit more travel and pedal effort to achieve it. You stop noticing it pretty quickly unless your regularly jumping between cars, and even then you'll still become accustomed to it.
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I certainly too a little time to adjust to the braking, initially felt like bad ICE brakes.

Auto hold also seems to make the car jolt, so impossible to limo stop / chauffeur stop.
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It is possible to stop smoothly with auto hold enabled - though maybe I've developed a feel for stopping completely on the footbrake before it engages the parking brake, or maybe my three year old brakes are a bit softer due to wear :D

It's strange - for the first few months of ownership, auto hold annoyed me by coming on when I didn't want it to (eg manoeuvring whilst parking), so I kept turning it off. But after a while I forgot to turn it off and it's been enabled for the last few years and never causes me any issues. I guess you adapt your driving style subconsciously :)
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Aragorn wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2024 2:53 pm I suspect the reviewers are comparing it to other VRS models like the Octavia, which is much lighter and likely far more "sporty" feeling.

I've not driven a VRS, but I've driven a 60 and an 80x Sportline (which is the same drivetrain as the VRS, just slightly detuned) and IMO theres nothing wrong with the cornering or braking. I mean, you can feel the weight, its a 2+ tonne car so its not going to change direction like a Mini, but there are no unpleasant manners, and the low CoG makes it handle very well given its weight.

Braking is weird, and i can understand what they mean, but its also flawed. Most EV's use a system that blends braking and regen. As a result the brake pedal feels a bit different to an ICE. The first part of the pedal travel is much softer and has much less "bite" which allows the ECU's to ramp in the regen before the hydraulic brakes come in. Jump from an ICE to an EV it can often feel like the brakes are poor in comparison. The reality is if you press harder, the brakes are just as powerful as they would be in an ICE car. It just requires a bit more travel and pedal effort to achieve it. You stop noticing it pretty quickly unless your regularly jumping between cars, and even then you'll still become accustomed to it.
Thanks for the useful info. I'm sure I saw one review saying 80x better but that might have been 'better buy' as a little cheaper. Makes sense about the braking due to regen. It might then be different using different regen modes so can experiment with that to see if a sweet spot. 'm sure I'd get used to it and not that bothered about the sporty side just didn't want a car that winds me up too much!
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Decide wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2024 4:16 pm I certainly too a little time to adjust to the braking, initially felt like bad ICE brakes.

Auto hold also seems to make the car jolt, so impossible to limo stop / chauffeur stop.
Thanks, I think the reviewers who were more critical just had one go in it and the longer term reviewers seemed less bothered. I love a limo stop so hopefully I can find a way to still do them.

Do you have the vrs? Is the ride OK and do you think I'd get away with 21 inch wheels?
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Generally people have found the 21" wheels to be a bit harsh on the Enyaq, and there is an impact on economy. But it's a bit better on the DCC equipped models in Comfort mode. Probably best if you can arrange for a test drive in one with 20" and one with 21" (doesn't have to be a vRS) to see if you can tell any difference.

I'm likely to be replacing my 2021 (RWD) Sportline 80 with a vRS in the next year (depending on when the finance works out best). The Enyaq's not a bad handling car for its weight, but as noted above - it's not going to handle as nimbly as something like a Fabia vRS :D Also it's not really fast like a Tesla Model 3 Performance. But it's still quicker to 60 mph than most petrol or diesel cars, and the instant torque of an EV does make overtaking effortless.
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RichR wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2024 8:36 am Generally people have found the 21" wheels to be a bit harsh on the Enyaq, and there is an impact on economy. But it's a bit better on the DCC equipped models in Comfort mode. Probably best if you can arrange for a test drive in one with 20" and one with 21" (doesn't have to be a vRS) to see if you can tell any difference.

I'm likely to be replacing my 2021 (RWD) Sportline 80 with a vRS in the next year (depending on when the finance works out best). The Enyaq's not a bad handling car for its weight, but as noted above - it's not going to handle as nimbly as something like a Fabia vRS :D Also it's not really fast like a Tesla Model 3 Performance. But it's still quicker to 60 mph than most petrol or diesel cars, and the instant torque of an EV does make overtaking effortless.
Thanks, I'll see if I can try both on some bumps. Used cars with DCC optioned seems rare, which is a shame.
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apey wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 9:42 am Hi

I'm looking at used Enyaqs. I like the look of the vRS coupe and the toys it comes with. Journeys will mostly be either me by myself on the motorway or the family in the back around town. I'm not that fussed about the sporty side of it but AWD and a little extra zip can be useful.

Most of the the reviewers of the 2022 model are disappointed with the braking and how it corners. I'm hoping the reviews are more focused on the comparison with other sporty Skodas and rival EVs.

Does anyone have experience of this model and is braking/handling an ongoing annoyance that affects the day to day use of the car?
Is the vRS worse to drive around corners than the 80 or just simply not giving much more for the money?
Will I get complaints from family in the back about the ride? Especially if get 21 inch wheels?!

Grateful for any thoughts and advice. Thanks
Hello I have the VRs and I love it. Tbh I think the brakes are absolutely fine and I drive using the regen on the paddles. If you get used to them you only have to apply a tiny bit of foot brake at the end. Is it fast? well it’s not Tesla fast or Ionic 5 N fast but it’s fast enough. Over 300hp is more than enough and in a 2 tonne car it’s not going to be a sports car in the corners but I think it goes into the corners nicely I. Fact I think coming out of the corners it is exceptional. It’s a Skoda it has its quirks but you know what, I love it.
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Vrsjones wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2024 5:53 pm
apey wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 9:42 am Hi

I'm looking at used Enyaqs. I like the look of the vRS coupe and the toys it comes with. Journeys will mostly be either me by myself on the motorway or the family in the back around town. I'm not that fussed about the sporty side of it but AWD and a little extra zip can be useful.

Most of the the reviewers of the 2022 model are disappointed with the braking and how it corners. I'm hoping the reviews are more focused on the comparison with other sporty Skodas and rival EVs.

Does anyone have experience of this model and is braking/handling an ongoing annoyance that affects the day to day use of the car?
Is the vRS worse to drive around corners than the 80 or just simply not giving much more for the money?
Will I get complaints from family in the back about the ride? Especially if get 21 inch wheels?!

Grateful for any thoughts and advice. Thanks
Hello I have the VRs and I love it. Tbh I think the brakes are absolutely fine and I drive using the regen on the paddles. If you get used to them you only have to apply a tiny bit of foot brake at the end. Is it fast? well it’s not Tesla fast or Ionic 5 N fast but it’s fast enough. Over 300hp is more than enough and in a 2 tonne car it’s not going to be a sports car in the corners but I think it goes into the corners nicely I. Fact I think coming out of the corners it is exceptional. It’s a Skoda it has its quirks but you know what, I love it.
Great to hear that you love it. The one I had my eye has been sold and rest are over my budget. I'm going for an 80 - head over heart. Hopefully picking up this weekend.
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