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Snow handling

Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:42 am
by Blaineyboy
Just wondering if anyone had chance to take their Enyaq out in the snow following the recent flurries, if so what was the handling like?

Re: Snow handling

Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2021 9:51 am
by Drumingtopbanana
No snow in Norfolk yet

But I was wondering how you turn off the Traction Control as sometimes you need to spin the wheels if you get stuck. I have looked through the manual and settings but nothing seems to leap out at me
Any ideas

Re: Snow handling

Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:53 pm
by orrery
Drumingtopbanana wrote: Sun Nov 28, 2021 9:51 am ... as sometimes you need to spin the wheels if you get stuck.
I've never heard that before. I've done quite bit of driving in snow over the years and the one thing you want to avoid is spinning the wheels and digging in to the snow.

Re: Snow handling

Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:23 pm
by chillyboy123
The cars ESC will reduce power / torque to the one
or both wheels if they are slipping, which is great safety tool most of time of year.

But in snow the cars traction control can think the car is out of control.

In this situation in the snow when both wheels are getting next to no torque, it can help to turn ESC off to make sure power gets to the wheels.

I can’t see an option to do that on the Enyaq either.

With no gearbox to select 2nd or 3rd to set off with. I am unsure how well it will deal with snow.

Not sure the weight and very wide tyres will help either 😩

Not took mine out in the snow so not sure how the rear wheel drive handles the snow.

Re: Snow handling

Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2021 7:30 pm
by orrery
chillyboy123 wrote: Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:23 pm Not took mine out in the snow so not sure how the rear wheel drive handles the snow.
It should be good, as the weight is reasonably balanced.

Re: Snow handling

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 10:24 am
by metalmadhammer
Its shockingly bad on an ice slope. My wife called me from the end of the road last night becuase the car was slipping and she got scared. She got out to let me in and the car started slipping sideways, just manged to jump in and turn the wheel and get it to run into a curb. nightmare. Its weight is its achillies heel in this weather. I tried to get up the same slope this morning and no chance. Will have to get some winter tyres.

Re: Snow handling

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 4:33 pm
by thcrawley
I live in the Swiss Alps and have an Enyaq iV 80x 4x4 with Continental Conti Winter Contact tires. Just came up the mountain in a bad snow storm yesterday. Cars were all over the place but the Enyaq stormed through without any problems. :)
Tires didn't spin once even though there was icy conditions.
I have to buy chains because of the change in laws but I thinking they wont come out of the packaging!

Re: Snow handling

Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2021 10:57 am
by zice
@thcrawley: i'm interested in the 80X and have some specific questions to 4WD behaviour:

- can you select a forced "snow" mode where both axles are engaged permanently?
- while driving, do you feel in any way the front motor when is engaged, like a perceived or slight delay, then a boost in power or traction?
- when starting from standstill in snow, do you feel anything different in motor behavior (as above) vs. on dry road?
- compared to a "classic" 4Motion/Xdrive/4Matic (if you had before) 4WD system, how would you compare this electric 4WD implementation?

I'm asking all this because before i had a "4Motion" Haldex and now a 4WD PHEV (2 electric motors) and there is a slight delay in normal mode before the front motor engages (default is rear motor), therefore it allows rear to spin a short bit before front engages. If i enable forced 4WD mode, all 4 wheels (2 axles) are engaged permanently, but sometimes ESP/ASR still regulates the high torque, esp. if having a heavier foot than normal.....In the old Haldex, the transition was absolutely not felt at all, it was smooth.

Also the ESP in the PHEV is quite nervous, esp. the ASR which regulates all that high torque from 0 rpm on slippery surfaces, meaning there is some weird noises in the process :)

Thanks!

Re: Snow handling

Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2021 11:39 am
by Stripy
My trip to Denmark on the 1st of December - arrived 50 meters from my parents house.
Note the shows in action 🤣

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I think the car will do what it’s driver is capable of - but the tyres that it’s born with as standard, is… less than useful in snowy conditions, so be warned, all weather or full winter tyres is recommended - winter tyres for EV is as rare as hens teeth; yes, you can get the same size, but rarely as a full winter tyre in UK. Some would argue, that winter tyres should be narrower than the standard tyres the car is born with - but finding these that can take same weight is a challenge. Let’s hope VAG and all the other manufacturers convince the tyre manufacturers of making this available - also in the UK market.

Re: Snow handling

Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2021 12:08 pm
by m66dan
I've got the 20" wheels on my Enyaq and this was the main issue. As already suggested, winter tyres do not exist in this size at the moment (I certainly could not find any and nor could my local tyre supplier). The best I could find was the Bridgestone Alenza Sport all season tyre. They are fitted now and will hopefully be better than the summer tyres that were standard and were really bad in the snow!