So its coming the time to swap my Kodiaq Sportline for a new company car... obviously due to the BiK rates i'm looking at the Enyaq iV80 Loft.
I'm allowed to add extra's upto a certain value but adding the packs I need to give me the bits I enjoy (Met Paint, 20" Alloys, Assisted drive pack, Climate Pk, Convenience Pk +, Comfort seat pack, Family pack +) means I can't add the Heat Pump or 125kw charging
Does anyone know if the Enyaq allows 125kw but its the cable your actually paying extra? if so maybe buying the cable later is an option???. Also as i'm new to the world of EVs is the heat pump going to add much range to the iV80 as its an expensive option
I'm slightly disappointed that features like heated seats, electric boot, rear USB chargers aren't standard in the iV80 which is a £40k car
Thanks for any help!
Enyaq Heat Pump & 125kw charging
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Heat pump depends on your circumstances. Its expensive and will probably make little difference in summer but will add range on a freezing winter day. So depends if you need regular long runs in winter. If your commute is only 100 miles round trip then probably not necessary.
I don't think you can get 125 charging by adding a lead later but I am happy to be corrected. Again if you plan on long trips and mid trip public charging I would put it as first option. If not and all your charging will be at home or work then you could save your money
I don't think you can get 125 charging by adding a lead later but I am happy to be corrected. Again if you plan on long trips and mid trip public charging I would put it as first option. If not and all your charging will be at home or work then you could save your money
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It depends on a lot of things like state of battery- is it low, temperature etc. But I reckon a rough guide would be an hour at 50kw to go from 20-80% and about half that at 125kw. as against overnight on a home charger. However there is a lot that can affect it and charging slows down the more the battery fills up.
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I think the Enyaq configurator on the Skoda website is a little misleading - it describes the heat pump as a "Heat pump for battery" and describes it thus: "The heat pump system helps to keep the battery at the optimum temperature to maximise driving range."
However as the car is based on the VW ID.4, I'd take this with a pinch of salt, as the VW website describes the heat pump as working like an inverse fridge as a means of warming the interior of the car in winter whilst using less power from the batteries over a traditional electric means of heating the air coming in from outside. It's this reduction in draw on the battery when heating the interior that extends the range. There's a good description of it in the ID.3 here: https://www.volkswagen.co.uk/electric/s ... /heat-pump
As for the onboard 125kW charging, I'm not 100% sure, but think that if you don't have it then you can't really get the benefit of any of the public chargers that are over 50kW. You can still connect to one that could in theory deliver 125kW (if you can find one, there aren't many in the UK outside of the Tesla Supercharger network), you just won't gain the benefit, so I think you're stuck with 50kW charging, which allows 20-80% charge in around 50 minutes.
Really it depends on whether you're going to do any long-range journeys. If it's a regular thing for you to travel more than the range of a single charge and you can plan your journey to include a 125kW+ charger, then it will save you roughly 30 minutes each recharge, although do bear in mind that you can't charge to 100% using a rapid charger AFAIK, you need to use a 7kW or 11kW (or if you're lucky a 22kW) home charging pod to get to 100% and it will effectively be an overnight charge to achieve 100%.
If it were my choice, I'd take the heat pump over the 125kW charging, unless you only ever do relatively short-range commuting journeys and don't mind the range penalty to heat the interior in the winter months. It is an expensive option at £1005 though, so if you've got to stick within a budget, then some of your other options might have to go. Family Pack+ at £455 would be a starting point for me (only the USB-C charging points are actually useful) and if you can forego the electric tailgate with kick activation by ticking the Convenience Pack rather than Convenience Pack+, you'd save another £515 there.
Of course someone with more technical knowledge might correct me on the charging point, but think that's right and hope it helps!
However as the car is based on the VW ID.4, I'd take this with a pinch of salt, as the VW website describes the heat pump as working like an inverse fridge as a means of warming the interior of the car in winter whilst using less power from the batteries over a traditional electric means of heating the air coming in from outside. It's this reduction in draw on the battery when heating the interior that extends the range. There's a good description of it in the ID.3 here: https://www.volkswagen.co.uk/electric/s ... /heat-pump
As for the onboard 125kW charging, I'm not 100% sure, but think that if you don't have it then you can't really get the benefit of any of the public chargers that are over 50kW. You can still connect to one that could in theory deliver 125kW (if you can find one, there aren't many in the UK outside of the Tesla Supercharger network), you just won't gain the benefit, so I think you're stuck with 50kW charging, which allows 20-80% charge in around 50 minutes.
Really it depends on whether you're going to do any long-range journeys. If it's a regular thing for you to travel more than the range of a single charge and you can plan your journey to include a 125kW+ charger, then it will save you roughly 30 minutes each recharge, although do bear in mind that you can't charge to 100% using a rapid charger AFAIK, you need to use a 7kW or 11kW (or if you're lucky a 22kW) home charging pod to get to 100% and it will effectively be an overnight charge to achieve 100%.
If it were my choice, I'd take the heat pump over the 125kW charging, unless you only ever do relatively short-range commuting journeys and don't mind the range penalty to heat the interior in the winter months. It is an expensive option at £1005 though, so if you've got to stick within a budget, then some of your other options might have to go. Family Pack+ at £455 would be a starting point for me (only the USB-C charging points are actually useful) and if you can forego the electric tailgate with kick activation by ticking the Convenience Pack rather than Convenience Pack+, you'd save another £515 there.
Of course someone with more technical knowledge might correct me on the charging point, but think that's right and hope it helps!
Current: 22 Kodiaq Sportline 2.0TDI 200
Prev: 19 Kodiaq
16 LR Disco Sport HSE Lux
08 Audi A5 3.0TDI
03 Audi S4 4.2 V8
98 Audi A4 2.8 quattro
95 Audi A4 1.8T Sport
92 VW Golf Mk3 1.9 TD
90 Ford Escort Mk5 1.6 LX
83 Vauxhall Astra Mk1 1.3 S
Prev: 19 Kodiaq
16 LR Disco Sport HSE Lux
08 Audi A5 3.0TDI
03 Audi S4 4.2 V8
98 Audi A4 2.8 quattro
95 Audi A4 1.8T Sport
92 VW Golf Mk3 1.9 TD
90 Ford Escort Mk5 1.6 LX
83 Vauxhall Astra Mk1 1.3 S
Like yourself, I'm also getting an Enyaq to avoid high BiK costs (oh, and to do my bit for the planet.... of course!!
I could have had a relatively basic iV80 - maybe with £1000 ish for extras, but I've gone for the '60 instead (I hope I don't end up cursing this decision by running out of juice 50 miles away from a charger!!!). I've been able to add a lot more to the '60, including Suite interior, but also 100kW charging and the heat pump. I'm probably being a tad naïve but I'm hoping that the heat pump in a '60 will get close (ish) to the range of an '80 without one, on cold winter days. Time will tell I guess !!
I could have had a relatively basic iV80 - maybe with £1000 ish for extras, but I've gone for the '60 instead (I hope I don't end up cursing this decision by running out of juice 50 miles away from a charger!!!). I've been able to add a lot more to the '60, including Suite interior, but also 100kW charging and the heat pump. I'm probably being a tad naïve but I'm hoping that the heat pump in a '60 will get close (ish) to the range of an '80 without one, on cold winter days. Time will tell I guess !!
iV80 Loft, Black, 21” Betria, 125kW, Climate Plus, Asst Drive Basic. Tethered PodPoint. Ordered May 2021. Delivered Nov 2021. Regrettably returned Jan 2024 (Company car. Changed jobs).
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